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	<title>Comments on: GyPSii, Market Approach and Business Models for a Truly Mobile Digital Lifestyle Application</title>
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		<title>By: John Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without specific reference to Gypsii and talking very generally - many ‘Mobile Social Networking’ companies appear to be following a formula that they hope will lead to their acquisition. That is the business model - the traditional Internet land-grab. Nothing wrong with that at all, but it all sounds a bit clichéd after a while, and true innovation becomes difficult to pinpoint. The formula involves 3 elementary ‘Location Services’ 

1. Friend-finder. It’s been around for ages, is not very successful in basic form, but the principle is clear - see where your friends are, or alert if they are nearby. 
2. Local Search. As Friend-finder. With just as turbulent a history. Check where things are around you. 
3. Geo-Tagged User-Generated Content. Probably the newest element and getting easier to do. Post info about things, or yourself. 

You have to combine these elements in some proportion, and then add some clever Marketing around a broader theme (community, lifestyle, sharing, personal, mobility, …) - and away you go. 

There is also a general reliance on advertising, or it’s more subtle name ‘profiling’. This has shown little real evidence of succeeding, because it’s either intrusive, or simply boring. A business should probably operate on more than just the hope that advertising succeeds, eventually. 

Having said all this (and somewhat aware that I’m sounding like Waldorf &amp; Statler from the Muppet show), there is a special recipe out there that will succeed big time, because all the ingredients are now ready. Some have been here since the dawn of the mobile phone, some have arrived with the relatively recent social network growth, or the availability of highly capably phones. Taking these components you need to then add your main ingredient which is innovative, or fresh, or a different perspective. This main ingredient should be solid, easily communicable to Joe Consumer, and clearly differentiating you from the hundreds of other ‘Mobile Social networking’ companies. I&#039;ve not see it yet, but it will appear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without specific reference to Gypsii and talking very generally &#8211; many ‘Mobile Social Networking’ companies appear to be following a formula that they hope will lead to their acquisition. That is the business model &#8211; the traditional Internet land-grab. Nothing wrong with that at all, but it all sounds a bit clichéd after a while, and true innovation becomes difficult to pinpoint. The formula involves 3 elementary ‘Location Services’ </p>
<p>1. Friend-finder. It’s been around for ages, is not very successful in basic form, but the principle is clear &#8211; see where your friends are, or alert if they are nearby.<br />
2. Local Search. As Friend-finder. With just as turbulent a history. Check where things are around you.<br />
3. Geo-Tagged User-Generated Content. Probably the newest element and getting easier to do. Post info about things, or yourself. </p>
<p>You have to combine these elements in some proportion, and then add some clever Marketing around a broader theme (community, lifestyle, sharing, personal, mobility, …) &#8211; and away you go. </p>
<p>There is also a general reliance on advertising, or it’s more subtle name ‘profiling’. This has shown little real evidence of succeeding, because it’s either intrusive, or simply boring. A business should probably operate on more than just the hope that advertising succeeds, eventually. </p>
<p>Having said all this (and somewhat aware that I’m sounding like Waldorf &amp; Statler from the Muppet show), there is a special recipe out there that will succeed big time, because all the ingredients are now ready. Some have been here since the dawn of the mobile phone, some have arrived with the relatively recent social network growth, or the availability of highly capably phones. Taking these components you need to then add your main ingredient which is innovative, or fresh, or a different perspective. This main ingredient should be solid, easily communicable to Joe Consumer, and clearly differentiating you from the hundreds of other ‘Mobile Social networking’ companies. I&#8217;ve not see it yet, but it will appear.</p>
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		<title>By: Luffemann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luffemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gypsii is a great product!

But this &quot; algorithm &quot; controlling the PUSH advertising is just a new buzz-word for SPAM and most of the users will unsubscribe to services like this when they have received x numbers of messages on there mobile phone simply because they haven&#039;t ask for it!

Secondly it seems like Gypsii should check up what patents there already are in the market (their business model).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gypsii is a great product!</p>
<p>But this &#8221; algorithm &#8221; controlling the PUSH advertising is just a new buzz-word for SPAM and most of the users will unsubscribe to services like this when they have received x numbers of messages on there mobile phone simply because they haven&#8217;t ask for it!</p>
<p>Secondly it seems like Gypsii should check up what patents there already are in the market (their business model).</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cranstone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Cranstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s some more patents to look at: http://www.seobythesea.com/?p=540 (Mobile Search Patent Blitz from Jumptap) Everyone is going for a land grab hoping that Google et all will buy them. I don&#039;t believe that strategy will be successful. Everyone is betting on their own platforms - what happens if someone releases a piece of code that allows you to access any mobile device capability with nothing more than simple JavaScript or by looking at some new user agents. Now everyone of these companies will have competition from millions of other companies who can offer similar services without the need for costly mobile development. Interesting times for sure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some more patents to look at: <a href="http://www.seobythesea.com/?p=540" rel="nofollow">http://www.seobythesea.com/?p=540</a> (Mobile Search Patent Blitz from Jumptap) Everyone is going for a land grab hoping that Google et all will buy them. I don&#8217;t believe that strategy will be successful. Everyone is betting on their own platforms &#8211; what happens if someone releases a piece of code that allows you to access any mobile device capability with nothing more than simple JavaScript or by looking at some new user agents. Now everyone of these companies will have competition from millions of other companies who can offer similar services without the need for costly mobile development. Interesting times for sure</p>
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		<title>By: John Feeney</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Feeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to note your question about people &quot;accepting Ads&quot;. Following a model that basically has not shown promise still raises the question whether this will work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to note your question about people &#8220;accepting Ads&#8221;. Following a model that basically has not shown promise still raises the question whether this will work</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Fresh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Fresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second Jonathan. Other players have already established their business model in this space, especially www.loopt.com in the US and www.pocketlife.com on a global scale. Latitude struggles with their user experience, but will dominate eventually as well - no doubt. For Gypsii it is nice to have some users in the Netherlands and China - and I love their spirit - but they have to be careful that they don&#039;t get stuck in a &quot;everything&#039;s possible&quot; attitude without offering relevant and focused value add.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Jonathan. Other players have already established their business model in this space, especially <a href="http://www.loopt.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.loopt.com</a> in the US and <a href="http://www.pocketlife.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.pocketlife.com</a> on a global scale. Latitude struggles with their user experience, but will dominate eventually as well &#8211; no doubt. For Gypsii it is nice to have some users in the Netherlands and China &#8211; and I love their spirit &#8211; but they have to be careful that they don&#8217;t get stuck in a &#8220;everything&#8217;s possible&#8221; attitude without offering relevant and focused value add.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cranstone</title>
		<link>http://bdnooz.com/2009/07/08/gypsii-market-approach-and-business-models-for-a-truly-mobile-digital-lifestyle-application/comment-page-1/#comment-2932</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Cranstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great interview. GyPSii&#039;s problem/opportunity is to decide exactly what they are doing. They talk about using their platform for different vertical markets (Enterprise) yet their core focus is mobile social networking with really only one revenue stream (ads). The mobile platform for the Enterprise might be useful (SaaS model) however it will distract them. Checked out the patent. Not sure how they got that awarded - lots of people in this space and I&#039;m sure there&#039;s lots of prior art.

Finally I like the point about API&#039;s... everyone should have them. They have to constantly update their server infrastructure to deal wtih the load - we (www.5o9inc.com) when another route which is to move the API to the client - now any mobile app can share data with any web service - less load on the servers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great interview. GyPSii&#8217;s problem/opportunity is to decide exactly what they are doing. They talk about using their platform for different vertical markets (Enterprise) yet their core focus is mobile social networking with really only one revenue stream (ads). The mobile platform for the Enterprise might be useful (SaaS model) however it will distract them. Checked out the patent. Not sure how they got that awarded &#8211; lots of people in this space and I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s lots of prior art.</p>
<p>Finally I like the point about API&#8217;s&#8230; everyone should have them. They have to constantly update their server infrastructure to deal wtih the load &#8211; we (www.5o9inc.com) when another route which is to move the API to the client &#8211; now any mobile app can share data with any web service &#8211; less load on the servers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gypsii is great, placed in a rapidly growing market, but i am still not so sure why it will win against other strong players such as www.loopt.com or www.pocketlife.com? Or can they all survive next to each other in a big pond?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gypsii is great, placed in a rapidly growing market, but i am still not so sure why it will win against other strong players such as <a href="http://www.loopt.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.loopt.com</a> or <a href="http://www.pocketlife.com?" rel="nofollow">http://www.pocketlife.com?</a> Or can they all survive next to each other in a big pond?</p>
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		<title>By: jennifer hicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennifer hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great interview, questions hit the real heart of the changing landscape in LBS. Nice to see such candid answers and a real effort to push an industry forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great interview, questions hit the real heart of the changing landscape in LBS. Nice to see such candid answers and a real effort to push an industry forward.</p>
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